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Dear moderators,\nWe all sometimes suffer sometimes from the 1GB upload limit. If we want to bring that higher, without having to host trillions of Terabytes, accepting some quality loss but not too much, what would be an acceptable upload limit?\nAny input appreciated,\nPascal.Login to Reply","permalink":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/2019\/10\/01\/video-upload-limit\/","unixtime":1569920707,"unixtimeModified":1569920707,"entryHeaderMeta":"","linkPages":"","footerEntryMeta":"","tagsRaw":"","tagsArray":[],"loginRedirectURL":"https:\/\/login.wordpress.org\/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Ftv%2F2019%2F10%2F01%2Fvideo-upload-limit%2F&locale=en_US","hasPrevPost":false,"prevPostTitle":"","prevPostURL":"","hasNextPost":false,"nextPostTitle":"","nextPostURL":"","commentsOpen":true,"is_xpost":false,"editURL":null,"postActions":"Post ActionsLogin to ReplyScrollShortlink","comments":["type":"comment","id":"1701","postID":"8771","postTitleRaw":"Video upload limit","cssClasses":"comment byuser comment-author-casiepa bypostauthor even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1","parentID":"0","contentRaw":"4GB ?","contentFiltered":"4GB ?\n","permalink":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/2019\/10\/01\/video-upload-limit\/#comment-1701","unixtime":1569920719,"loginRedirectURL":"https:\/\/login.wordpress.org\/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Ftv%2F2019%2F10%2F01%2Fvideo-upload-limit%2F%23comment-1701&locale=en_US","approved":true,"isTrashed":false,"prevDeleted":"","editURL":null,"depth":1,"commentDropdownActions":"","commentFooterActions":"Login to Reply","commentTrashedActions":"Untrash","mentions":[],"mentionContext":"","commentCreated":"1569920719","hasChildren":false,"userLogin":"casiepa","userNicename":"casiepa","type":"comment","id":"1702","postID":"8771","postTitleRaw":"Video upload limit","cssClasses":"comment byuser comment-author-tacticalreviewsblog odd alt thread-even depth-1","parentID":"0","contentRaw":"I'd second Pascal's 4GB for the following reasons, but also add the stipulation that the maximum resolution be Full HD 1080p (no 4k etc):\n1. If I go with 1080p 24fps rendering, a 30 minute video is about 1.4GB.\n(That same video, to get under 1GB has had to go to 720x576)\n2. This should then easily allow for talks up to an hour at 1080p.\n3. Slides will be clearer when shown as PiP.\n4. I'll think of something else in a minute but will stop there...","contentFiltered":"I\u2019d second Pascal\u2019s 4GB for the following reasons, but also add the stipulation that the maximum resolution be Full HD 1080p (no 4k etc):\n1. If I go with 1080p 24fps rendering, a 30 minute video is about 1.4GB.\n(That same video, to get under 1GB has had to go to 720\u00d7576)\n2. This should then easily allow for talks up to an hour at 1080p.\n3. Slides will be clearer when shown as PiP.\n4. I\u2019ll think of something else in a minute but will stop there\u2026\n","permalink":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/2019\/10\/01\/video-upload-limit\/#comment-1702","unixtime":1569921431,"loginRedirectURL":"https:\/\/login.wordpress.org\/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Ftv%2F2019%2F10%2F01%2Fvideo-upload-limit%2F%23comment-1702&locale=en_US","approved":true,"isTrashed":false,"prevDeleted":"","editURL":null,"depth":1,"commentDropdownActions":"","commentFooterActions":"Login to Reply","commentTrashedActions":"Untrash","mentions":[],"mentionContext":"","commentCreated":"1569921431","hasChildren":false,"userLogin":"tacticalreviewsblog","userNicename":"tacticalreviewsblog","type":"comment","id":"1703","postID":"8771","postTitleRaw":"Video upload limit","cssClasses":"comment byuser comment-author-pablo-moratinos even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1","parentID":"0","contentRaw":"Hello, I think 4GB should be enough in most of the most common cases","contentFiltered":"Hello, I think 4GB should be enough in most of the most common cases\n","permalink":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/2019\/10\/01\/video-upload-limit\/#comment-1703","unixtime":1569989840,"loginRedirectURL":"https:\/\/login.wordpress.org\/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Ftv%2F2019%2F10%2F01%2Fvideo-upload-limit%2F%23comment-1703&locale=en_US","approved":true,"isTrashed":false,"prevDeleted":"","editURL":null,"depth":1,"commentDropdownActions":"","commentFooterActions":"Login to Reply","commentTrashedActions":"Untrash","mentions":[],"mentionContext":"","commentCreated":"1569989840","hasChildren":false,"userLogin":"Pablo Moratinos","userNicename":"pablo-moratinos","type":"comment","id":"1704","postID":"8771","postTitleRaw":"Video upload limit","cssClasses":"comment byuser comment-author-dd32 odd alt thread-even depth-1","parentID":"0","contentRaw":"Firstly I'd say that 1080p as an absolute maximum makes sense, although for most purposes I would expect 720p to be plenty.\n\nWhile I understand 1GB being limiting (I also run up against the limit) I don't think increasing that is entirely the best solution here - What's the recommended encoding settings? Constant Rate H.264? Would Quality-based H.265 encodes be better?\n\nLooking at the upload history, it varies immensely - I'm seeing anything from 200MB for a 40min 1080p h.264 through to 1GB for a 20 minute 720p h.264 session. There's mov and wmv uploads.. There's even a h.265 40 minute presentation at 80MB (As good quality as you'd expect) and a 90 minute 1080p h.265 presentation coming at 700MB that's very reasonable. There's even qHD content (1\/4 1080p, 576px tall) that's 20min and weighs 800MB (but isn't super quality).\n\nWhat I'm saying is.. Rather than focusing on file size, and \"bigger is better\" (It usually is with bitrates, but modern codecs and encoders seem much better than they used to be) would better Codec\/Quality Setting recommendations significantly help here?\nThe storage isn't free, and with the significant amount of content WP.TV collects, even a small increase in allowed file sizes will cause significant more disk usage without necessarily better quality.","contentFiltered":"Firstly I\u2019d say that 1080p as an absolute maximum makes sense, although for most purposes I would expect 720p to be plenty.\nWhile I understand 1GB being limiting (I also run up against the limit) I don\u2019t think increasing that is entirely the best solution here \u2013 What\u2019s the recommended encoding settings? Constant Rate H.264? Would Quality-based H.265 encodes be better?\nLooking at the upload history, it varies immensely \u2013 I\u2019m seeing anything from 200MB for a 40min 1080p h.264 through to 1GB for a 20 minute 720p h.264 session. There\u2019s mov and wmv uploads.. There\u2019s even a h.265 40 minute presentation at 80MB (As good quality as you\u2019d expect) and a 90 minute 1080p h.265 presentation coming at 700MB that\u2019s very reasonable. There\u2019s even qHD content (1\/4 1080p, 576px tall) that\u2019s 20min and weighs 800MB (but isn\u2019t super quality).\nWhat I\u2019m saying is.. Rather than focusing on file size, and \u201cbigger is better\u201d (It usually is with bitrates, but modern codecs and encoders seem much better than they used to be) would better Codec\/Quality Setting recommendations significantly help here?\nThe storage isn\u2019t free, and with the significant amount of content WP.TV collects, even a small increase in allowed file sizes will cause significant more disk usage without necessarily better quality.\n","permalink":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/2019\/10\/01\/video-upload-limit\/#comment-1704","unixtime":1569990331,"loginRedirectURL":"https:\/\/login.wordpress.org\/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Ftv%2F2019%2F10%2F01%2Fvideo-upload-limit%2F%23comment-1704&locale=en_US","approved":true,"isTrashed":false,"prevDeleted":"","editURL":null,"depth":1,"commentDropdownActions":"","commentFooterActions":"Login to Reply","commentTrashedActions":"Untrash","mentions":[],"mentionContext":"","commentCreated":"1569990331","hasChildren":false,"userLogin":"dd32","userNicename":"dd32","type":"comment","id":"1705","postID":"8771","postTitleRaw":"Video upload limit","cssClasses":"comment byuser comment-author-luisherranz even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1","parentID":"0","contentRaw":"I've just uploaded a 90min workshop from our local meetup. We recorded everything in 1080p, but the final video weights 4Gb, so we had to reduce it to fit the 1Gb requirement. \n\nI think a lower resolution is ok for speakers and slides but for workshops, when there's code on the screen, it'd be better to be able to upload a 1080p video. Also, workshops are usually longer, between 1-2 hours. That also means bigger files.","contentFiltered":"I\u2019ve just uploaded a 90min workshop from our local meetupMeetup All local\/regional gatherings that are officially a part of the WordPress world but are not WordCamps are organized through https:\/\/www.meetup.com\/. A meetup is typically a chance for local WordPress users to get together and share new ideas and seek help from one another. Searching for \u2018WordPress\u2019 on meetup.com will help you find options in your area.. We recorded everything in 1080p, but the final video weights 4Gb, so we had to reduce it to fit the 1Gb requirement. \nI think a lower resolution is ok for speakers and slides but for workshops, when there\u2019s code on the screen, it\u2019d be better to be able to upload a 1080p video. Also, workshops are usually longer, between 1-2 hours. That also means bigger files.\n","permalink":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/2019\/10\/01\/video-upload-limit\/#comment-1705","unixtime":1569994571,"loginRedirectURL":"https:\/\/login.wordpress.org\/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Ftv%2F2019%2F10%2F01%2Fvideo-upload-limit%2F%23comment-1705&locale=en_US","approved":true,"isTrashed":false,"prevDeleted":"","editURL":null,"depth":1,"commentDropdownActions":"","commentFooterActions":"Login to Reply","commentTrashedActions":"Untrash","mentions":[],"mentionContext":"","commentCreated":"1569994571","hasChildren":false,"userLogin":"luisherranz","userNicename":"luisherranz","type":"comment","id":"1706","postID":"8771","postTitleRaw":"Video upload limit","cssClasses":"comment byuser comment-author-weiko odd alt depth-2","parentID":"1704","contentRaw":"100% agree, increasing max size 4 times seems overkill and probably the most common outcome will be 30 minutes \/ 4GB videos.","contentFiltered":"100% agree, increasing max size 4 times seems overkill and probably the most common outcome will be 30 minutes \/ 4GB videos.\n","permalink":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/2019\/10\/01\/video-upload-limit\/#comment-1706","unixtime":1570013828,"loginRedirectURL":"https:\/\/login.wordpress.org\/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Ftv%2F2019%2F10%2F01%2Fvideo-upload-limit%2F%23comment-1706&locale=en_US","approved":true,"isTrashed":false,"prevDeleted":"","editURL":null,"depth":2,"commentDropdownActions":"","commentFooterActions":"Login to Reply","commentTrashedActions":"Untrash","mentions":[],"mentionContext":"","commentCreated":"1570013828","hasChildren":false,"userLogin":"Weiko","userNicename":"weiko","type":"comment","id":"1707","postID":"8771","postTitleRaw":"Video upload limit","cssClasses":"comment byuser comment-author-nilovelez even thread-even depth-1","parentID":"0","contentRaw":"Agreed.\n\nCurrent YouTube bitrate recommendations can be a good starting point. They suggest 4mbps for 720p@30 and 6mbps for 1080p@30\n\nWith that settings, both 40 minutes at 1080 and 66 minutes at 720 take 1.98Gb\n\nIMHO 2Gb is a reasonable limit","contentFiltered":"Agreed.\nCurrent YouTube bitrate recommendations can be a good starting point. They suggest 4mbps for 720p@30 and 6mbps for 1080p@30\nWith that settings, both 40 minutes at 1080 and 66 minutes at 720 take 1.98Gb\nIMHO 2Gb is a reasonable limit\n","permalink":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/2019\/10\/01\/video-upload-limit\/#comment-1707","unixtime":1570015134,"loginRedirectURL":"https:\/\/login.wordpress.org\/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Ftv%2F2019%2F10%2F01%2Fvideo-upload-limit%2F%23comment-1707&locale=en_US","approved":true,"isTrashed":false,"prevDeleted":"","editURL":null,"depth":1,"commentDropdownActions":"","commentFooterActions":"Login to Reply","commentTrashedActions":"Untrash","mentions":[],"mentionContext":"","commentCreated":"1570015134","hasChildren":false,"userLogin":"nilovelez","userNicename":"nilovelez","type":"comment","id":"1708","postID":"8771","postTitleRaw":"Video upload limit","cssClasses":"comment byuser comment-author-pablo-moratinos odd alt depth-2","parentID":"1703","contentRaw":"sorry, I meant 2GB.","contentFiltered":"sorry, I meant 2GB.\n","permalink":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/2019\/10\/01\/video-upload-limit\/#comment-1708","unixtime":1570015914,"loginRedirectURL":"https:\/\/login.wordpress.org\/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Ftv%2F2019%2F10%2F01%2Fvideo-upload-limit%2F%23comment-1708&locale=en_US","approved":true,"isTrashed":false,"prevDeleted":"","editURL":null,"depth":2,"commentDropdownActions":"","commentFooterActions":"Login to Reply","commentTrashedActions":"Untrash","mentions":[],"mentionContext":"","commentCreated":"1570015914","hasChildren":false,"userLogin":"Pablo Moratinos","userNicename":"pablo-moratinos","type":"comment","id":"1709","postID":"8771","postTitleRaw":"Video upload limit","cssClasses":"comment byuser comment-author-davidperez even depth-3","parentID":"1708","contentRaw":"Agree with 2Gb.","contentFiltered":"Agree with 2Gb.\n","permalink":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/2019\/10\/01\/video-upload-limit\/#comment-1709","unixtime":1570026135,"loginRedirectURL":"https:\/\/login.wordpress.org\/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Ftv%2F2019%2F10%2F01%2Fvideo-upload-limit%2F%23comment-1709&locale=en_US","approved":true,"isTrashed":false,"prevDeleted":"","editURL":null,"depth":3,"commentDropdownActions":"","commentFooterActions":"Login to Reply","commentTrashedActions":"Untrash","mentions":[],"mentionContext":"","commentCreated":"1570026135","hasChildren":false,"userLogin":"davidperez","userNicename":"davidperez","type":"comment","id":"1710","postID":"8771","postTitleRaw":"Video upload limit","cssClasses":"comment byuser comment-author-wajari odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1","parentID":"0","contentRaw":"I agree with many of the comments. It seems reasonable to upload to 2 GB, but I think (more than 2GB) it is excessive, because it is not necessary for the type of videos that are uploaded to WP.TV","contentFiltered":"I agree with many of the comments. It seems reasonable to upload to 2 GB, but I think (more than 2GB) it is excessive, because it is not necessary for the type of videos that are uploaded to WP.TV\n","permalink":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/2019\/10\/01\/video-upload-limit\/#comment-1710","unixtime":1570177303,"loginRedirectURL":"https:\/\/login.wordpress.org\/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Ftv%2F2019%2F10%2F01%2Fvideo-upload-limit%2F%23comment-1710&locale=en_US","approved":true,"isTrashed":false,"prevDeleted":"","editURL":null,"depth":1,"commentDropdownActions":"","commentFooterActions":"Login to Reply","commentTrashedActions":"Untrash","mentions":[],"mentionContext":"","commentCreated":"1570177303","hasChildren":false,"userLogin":"wajari","userNicename":"wajari","type":"comment","id":"1711","postID":"8771","postTitleRaw":"Video upload limit","cssClasses":"comment byuser comment-author-walterebert even thread-even depth-1","parentID":"0","contentRaw":"Most videos can be transcoded to under 1GB. Handbrake usually does a good job out-of-the-box. But long videos might need some tweaking. Adding tips and tricks on the submission page could help.\n\nWith H.265 or AV1 codecs file sizes can be greatly reduced. But this requires a powerful computer (or a lot of time).\n\nIn the past I have managed to get an almost 3 hour long fullHD video under 1GB:\nhttps:\/\/wordpress.tv\/2018\/08\/06\/adrian-roselli-prototyping-accessibility\/","contentFiltered":"Most videos can be transcoded to under 1GB. Handbrake usually does a good job out-of-the-box. But long videos might need some tweaking. Adding tips and tricks on the submission page could help.\nWith H.265 or AV1 codecs file sizes can be greatly reduced. But this requires a powerful computer (or a lot of time).\nIn the past I have managed to get an almost 3 hour long fullHD video under 1GB:\nhttps:\/\/wordpress.tv\/2018\/08\/06\/adrian-roselli-prototyping-accessibility\/\n","permalink":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/2019\/10\/01\/video-upload-limit\/#comment-1711","unixtime":1570736739,"loginRedirectURL":"https:\/\/login.wordpress.org\/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Ftv%2F2019%2F10%2F01%2Fvideo-upload-limit%2F%23comment-1711&locale=en_US","approved":true,"isTrashed":false,"prevDeleted":"","editURL":null,"depth":1,"commentDropdownActions":"","commentFooterActions":"Login to Reply","commentTrashedActions":"Untrash","mentions":[],"mentionContext":"","commentCreated":"1570736739","hasChildren":false,"userLogin":"walterebert","userNicename":"walterebert","type":"comment","id":"1712","postID":"8771","postTitleRaw":"Video upload limit","cssClasses":"comment byuser comment-author-h84m odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1","parentID":"0","contentRaw":"At least 2GB,\n4GB is great.\nMy opinion.","contentFiltered":"At least 2GB,\n4GB is great.\nMy opinion.\n","permalink":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/2019\/10\/01\/video-upload-limit\/#comment-1712","unixtime":1571196430,"loginRedirectURL":"https:\/\/login.wordpress.org\/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Ftv%2F2019%2F10%2F01%2Fvideo-upload-limit%2F%23comment-1712&locale=en_US","approved":true,"isTrashed":false,"prevDeleted":"","editURL":null,"depth":1,"commentDropdownActions":"","commentFooterActions":"Login to Reply","commentTrashedActions":"Untrash","mentions":[],"mentionContext":"","commentCreated":"1571196430","hasChildren":false,"userLogin":"h84m","userNicename":"h84m","type":"comment","id":"1713","postID":"8771","postTitleRaw":"Video upload limit","cssClasses":"comment byuser comment-author-rahuldsarker even thread-even depth-1","parentID":"0","contentRaw":"I think min 2.5GB, That should be enough for high res 1080p 40 min Video and maximum of 4-5GB. While uploading my local WC video, We had to compromise the quality of the video, to fit the 1GB mark.","contentFiltered":"I think min 2.5GB, That should be enough for high res 1080p 40 min Video and maximum of 4-5GB. While uploading my local WC video, We had to compromise the quality of the video, to fit the 1GB mark.\n","permalink":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/2019\/10\/01\/video-upload-limit\/#comment-1713","unixtime":1571291139,"loginRedirectURL":"https:\/\/login.wordpress.org\/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Ftv%2F2019%2F10%2F01%2Fvideo-upload-limit%2F%23comment-1713&locale=en_US","approved":true,"isTrashed":false,"prevDeleted":"","editURL":null,"depth":1,"commentDropdownActions":"","commentFooterActions":"Login to Reply","commentTrashedActions":"Untrash","mentions":[],"mentionContext":"","commentCreated":"1571291139","hasChildren":false,"userLogin":"rahuldsarker","userNicename":"rahuldsarker","type":"comment","id":"1714","postID":"8771","postTitleRaw":"Video upload limit","cssClasses":"comment byuser comment-author-nilovelez odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1","parentID":"0","contentRaw":"Ok, here is the thing. You can't expect to make a video any better just by throwing more pixels at it. Proper lighting, focus and sound are way more important that resolution, and those hardly affect file sizes.\n\nThis is a video from a workshop of our last WordCamp, I'm uploading them all to WordPressTV today. It was recorded at 720p@25 with a DVCPro camera and stored as MXF, audio was 24bit PCM recorded via a lav mic, and the speaker's screen was captured locally using OBS (yes, I know it's overkill for a workshop)\n\nThe point is that it was recorded at 720p@25, edited at 720p@25 and mastered at 720p@25, no resizes or resamples. This weights 962Mb (45min video, VBR 2mbps average, 8mbps max):\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Acq8D6F7Dj8\n\nDo you think 1080p resolution would make any difference? Hey, we are not recording Marvel movies.\n\nWhat I do have is a better bitrate file, I don't have it here, but I think it is 1.75Gb-ish for 4mbps. A 2Gb limit should be enough for any properly compressed video.","contentFiltered":"Ok, here is the thing. You can\u2019t expect to make a video any better just by throwing more pixels at it. Proper lighting, focus and sound are way more important that resolution, and those hardly affect file sizes.\nThis is a video from a workshop of our last WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community comes together to teach one another what they\u2019ve learned throughout the year and share the joy. Learn more., I\u2019m uploading them all to WordPressTV today. It was recorded at 720p@25 with a DVCPro camera and stored as MXF, audio was 24bit PCM recorded via a lav mic, and the speaker\u2019s screen was captured locally using OBS (yes, I know it\u2019s overkill for a workshop)\nThe point is that it was recorded at 720p@25, edited at 720p@25 and mastered at 720p@25, no resizes or resamples. This weights 962Mb (45min video, VBR 2mbps average, 8mbps max):\n\nDo you think 1080p resolution would make any difference? Hey, we are not recording Marvel movies.\nWhat I do have is a better bitrate file, I don\u2019t have it here, but I think it is 1.75Gb-ish for 4mbps. A 2Gb limit should be enough for any properly compressed video.\n","permalink":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/2019\/10\/01\/video-upload-limit\/#comment-1714","unixtime":1571384846,"loginRedirectURL":"https:\/\/login.wordpress.org\/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Ftv%2F2019%2F10%2F01%2Fvideo-upload-limit%2F%23comment-1714&locale=en_US","approved":true,"isTrashed":false,"prevDeleted":"","editURL":null,"depth":1,"commentDropdownActions":"","commentFooterActions":"Login to Reply","commentTrashedActions":"Untrash","mentions":[],"mentionContext":"","commentCreated":"1571384846","hasChildren":false,"userLogin":"nilovelez","userNicename":"nilovelez"],"postFormat":"standard","postMeta":"isSticky":false,"postTerms":"category":["label":"Uncategorized","count":341,"link":"https:\/\/make.wordpress.org\/tv\/category\/uncategorized\/"],"post_tag":[],"post_format":[],"pluginData":[],"isPage":false,"mentions":[],"mentionContext":"","isTrashed":false,"userLogin":"casiepa","userNicename":"casiepa"}]Kartik Shukla8:04 am on July 25, 2019 Proposal to change the weekly meeting timeOur current meeting time does not accommodate all timezones very well. Does weekly meeting time 13:00 UTC fits well? 2ff7e9595c